[7:11 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Pabung N. Khelchandragi dictionaryni. Date of edition 2004 oiramgani. Out of print oikhrabani. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[7:12 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Cheiraoba asina chahigi aroiba numit oiragadi, Sajibu nongma panba haiba asi chahigi karamba matamno haibanachingbasida Khelchandra gi mityeng ama soidana leiramlagani. Oja Ibopishak na mathakta panbikhiba Khelchandragi lairik/article adu yamna thuna paba changle ei.
[7:13 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Ibopishak Thangjam) 2004 si anisuba khutnam ni ojaa.
[7:17 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Manipurda Cheiraoba anini. Shajibu nongma panbada ama. April 12 Hindugi Charak pujada ama. Eihak dictionarydu yenglaga thuna foto copy tharaklage. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[7:18 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: April 13 haigadaba. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[7:25 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replyin to Thoithoi O'Cottage) Goura dharma chatpa Meetei-su atei furupsinggum CHEIRAAOBA numitki mathang nongaanba numit adubu CHAHI HOUBA NUMIT haaina khangnabani. Meeronda masibu poilaa Beishak kouribaduni.
Haairiba chahi houba numit asida nganna hougatlabadi chahi chuppa nganna hougatli haaiduna angaangsingda khanghalli. Irujabada KONOK MARUM na kok lubasu chatnarammi. Numitsida ahaaoba chaarabadi chahi chuppa chaai haaiduna ngaa thongba chaahounaba kanna hotnarammi. Asinachingba.
Chahi houba numit asidagi numit mangaani chupna thabak suba yaade. Leibaak touba yaade. Kaang tharo, likkon nachingba saannaba chatnei. Tan-khaa houduna keiroi leikaai ga chaamin thakminnei, koithoknei. Nupaadingna juwaar saannaduna numit mangaano asi lennabasu hotnarammi.
[7:30 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Manipurda chatnabaga khara khennei.
[7:31 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Ei wakhal kanna khalli! Unlearning, learning ... asinachingba. Ngaihakka khanjakhige. Mabuk manam, mathak makha onthokpagumba ama toure 馃槀
Good experience.
[7:32 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Cheiraobagi definition, amasumg masigi practice asigi matangda thamjaba wafamni. Ei gyan ngaotak touri. Ngaihak khanjakhige. 馃槀
[7:37 pm, 17/04/2020] Priyambada Laimayum: Ekhei ethok uraga ei kok pumchai chaire.. 馃ぃ
[7:39 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Thoithoi O'Cottage) Ngaaohougadaba waafam amana CHEIRAAOBAgi matang nongaanbadu SAJIBU NONGMA PAANBA/POILAA TAARIKH haaina khangnei. Goura dharma chatpa kaangbuna lepliba numitsi Bengali Calendar gi makhaa ponbani.
[7:42 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Priyambada Laimayum) Khara paak sanna yengminnabagi mafam ama soidana fangbiramlagani. CHEIRAAOBA numitki mamaanggi numit adubu LAAI KHUNDIN numitni haainasu lounabani.
[7:42 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: (Replying to ND Hodamba) Oja, Meiteigi Sajibu nongma panba gi cheiraoba asi loukhattuna yenglasi. Nongma panba asigi mathanggi numitsi nini panba oigani, mathangna humni. Asumna mathang mathang.
Karigumba eikhoina Sajibu nongma panba, nini panba haina numit pabagi maong asigi paringda, masigi thaaba asida Sajibugi nongma panbada cheiraoba oiragadi oja Khelchandrana cheiraobabu chahigi aroiba numit haina piribasi ei bhap tababada khara waana thokle. Aroiba numit oiragadi nongma panba oigani thajade. Aduga nongma panba asina aroiba oiragadi mathanggi numit nini panba asida anouba chahi amagi ahanba thagi ahanba numit oigadouri.
Masigi matangsi ojana eibu amukta bhap tahanbiyu.
Sajibu asi chahigi aroiba thani, aduga nongma panba hairibasi aroiba numit oigadabani haiba paring amada khongpham thamlaga iba oigadouribajatla oja Khelchandragi definition asi?
[7:43 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: (Replying to ND Hodamba's reply to Thoithoi O'Cottage) Noted.
[7:45 pm, 17/04/2020] Priyambada Laimayum: (Replying to ND Hodamba) Laai khundin numit cmadi ei knowledge amta leijade..
[7:49 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Mani. Poila Beishyakta mayang karbarwallasingna anouba HISAB BOI hong ee. Cheiraoba numitta yahou ngangadabami. Chahi chuppa yahou ngannaba. Nonganba numittu SHILHENBA kou ee. Shintha leplaga pothagadabani. Kavi Laishram Samarendragi Cheiraoba numitpu thaba sheireng ama lei. Mamingdi kaore. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[7:55 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Chamangga mangba sengbaga mari leinade. Cheng adu choithoktriba, ngoubagi chang watliba chengni haiduna Chamaang koubagi watani. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[7:55 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: CHEIRAAOBAgi mataanga practical knowledge khara konung amasung pandit loisangdagi khangminnaba yaai. Pijariba saktam asi handak chahigi oina cheithaakhiba meesak aduni.
[7:57 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Read
[7:57 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Repyig to Ibopishak Thangjam) CHING KAASI NGASIDI koibani ojaa Somarendra-gi seirengdu.
[7:58 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Mani chummi.
[8:00 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage:
Chahi houba numitta yahou, nganba, iru maithajaba, taru tananba, afaba thabak touba, imung manung harao tayamna leiminnaba (khatnadaba, ningai sangdannadaba) and ensang ahaoba chaba 馃榾 asinachingbasi touragadi chahiduma matou asumna nungtigi oirani, aduna nungairani... Masini eina angang oiringeidagi tajarakpasi.
Chap mannei. Eina ngaoribadi masigi thabak asi cheiraoba numitta touduna laakliba asini. Matou karamna chahi loibaga chahi houbagasi nongmatada punsinkhribano, kamdouna masi oikhibano haibasini. Masigisu social history ama leigani khalli.
Aduga eikhoigi houjik faobada leiriba dictionary singda eina penjadaba asi matang asidasu oire. Eikhoigi dictionary singna waheigi arthadi pi, adubu waheiduga waheidugi meaning/wahanthok aduga matou karamna mari leinaribano, cheiraoba haibasigi chahi houbani nattraga loibani haibadu nattaba, cheiraoba haiba waheisi karamna saribano/semlibano, kariga kariga punsillaga kari sound segment samjinkhraga, kanthokkhraga, kariga kariga soujinnakhraga/yansinnakhraga kari oirakpano haibasi sukhai haibidabasini. Masi kurak lamdaiba haiba asidasu thok-i. Akhangbadi khanggani dictionary yaodragasu. Khangdaba eikhoina khangnaba kurak hairisina karino, lamdaiba hairibasina karino, makhoi anisi pullagana artha asi oire haibanachingba amatta haibidaba, arthadudang hanbase.
[8:02 pm, 17/04/2020] Mosyel Khaling: Cheiraobagi waaphomsimasu saruk yaamna yaajaning-i, adubu Bang-gaali-gi nattaba isaa-isaagi thaasing-thaabaanda yumphom oiraga paaba (calculate)-duda yaoning-i, eikhoigi (of Uipo community)-su thaasing-thaabaan leijei.Madu Meitei-gi Cheiraoba (new year eve) ani thoklibadudagi tongaalli. Adubu lon (language) assimilation-naraa khangdre, kharana cheiraoba hairi ayaambana kumran hairi. Interesting.
[8:04 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Cheiraobagisi cultural reading oina khara paak sanna, khara luthana amukta pajakhige.
Oja @ND Hodambana recommend toubiba yaba lairik, article amasung atei source amukta haibiraklagadi eigi mateng yamna oigani khanjei. Lanai oina thabiraklagasu, group asida thabiraklagasu iyada yare, oja.
[8:08 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Khekchandragi article lei. Ehak thirakke. Chefong amanba mayagi marakta yaoraga atoppa ka amada leikhibani thiba khara wagani.
[8:08 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Masi amuktang thabiraklagadi eidi nungaijakhranida, oja!
[8:09 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: 鉂わ笍
[8:14 pm, 17/04/2020] Lilapati Rajkumari: Cheiraobagi lairik ama leibani
" On fixing the date of Cheiraoba" koubani.
Aduda cheiraobagi maramda yaobani.
Eibudi pahoudre, eikhoi yumda leirammi matam amada. Angang oiringeida uhoubani madu.
[8:15 pm, 17/04/2020] Lilapati Rajkumari: Lairik tu W. Yumjaona e hai.
[8:16 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Download touba fangbra yengge
[8:16 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Thoithoi O'Cottage) Yenglakke
[8:16 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Thangjam Ibopishak)
[8:18 pm, 17/04/2020] Priyambada Laimayum: Wakching da ama cheiraonari cna karambano oja
[8:19 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Madudi tadri.
[8:20 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Priyambada Laimayum) Ojaa Khelchandragi paringda lepcharaga haaiba ngamba waafam amadi 'chahi houba numitta cheiraaoba' haaiba waafam asimak laalli haaibasini.
[8:22 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: ojaa Waangkhemchaa Chingtamlen khoina houdokpani. Waakoklon Hilel Thilel Salaai Amaailon Pukok' kouba puyaa amaga mari leinahallaga saagatpani.
[8:23 pm, 17/04/2020] Priyambada Laimayum: (Replying to Ibopishak Thangjam) Eiga thabak touminnaba angang ama makhoi gi wakching da cheirao e hai. Maram hangbada hyyu d sukya yade.
[8:23 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Bengaligi matou tambani. Ei thoina khangde.
[8:25 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Madugi puyadubu thainagi asengba potla?
[8:28 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: (Replying to ND Hodamba) Masi tarakkadourini magi khongfam asida leplagadi.
Adu oja, cheiraoba haiba waheisi karamna, kari kari punsillaga semba jatno? Cheithaba haibasida chei panbagi wafa sima leire. Cheiraobagi chei asiga mari leinadouribajatla? Nattraga chahigi haraoba (masi khudaksida eina sum sagatchabani) haibagumbadagi samjillaga, sound change thoklaga cheiraoba haikhibajatla? Nattraga karigumba wafam khara laothokpa gumbagi wa leibajatla?
Masida kari mot leibibage, oja?
[8:29 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Ibopishak Thangjam) Eina khangjabadadi natte, semjinba puyaasinggi msraktadi amani. Manipur da yaamnamak neinariba thoudok amani.
makhoinadi chahi 3000 msmaang 馃榾gini ka haaina claim toubani ojaa. Paamheiba ningthou haaktakki mamaangda iramba oiramgani haaina carbon dating toure haainasu laanna sandokpani ojaa.
[8:30 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: (Replying to Ibopishak Thangjam) Masigi lairiksigi matangda ojana ojagi blog ta ibikhibadu ei pajakhre. Chingtamlenna eibusu houjik faoba saori hai.
[8:30 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Yudi pre historic eradagi thaknaraklamlagani. Filmda Romansingna pithraigi jugta yu thak ee. Mayai happi hai pithraaigi patra aduna.
[8:32 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Bishwapremi Shagolshem Shagolsem, na share toubirakpasing asi ei yengjadri. Punna khomjillaga pajarage.
[8:50 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: (Replying to Thoithoi O'Cottage) Leibbaakki amadi ningthougi awaa-anaa taagadaba pumnamak mahaakna puragani haaina chongthorakliba CHEITHAABA meesak aduna chahi ama purambadu mapung faare, atoppa amana amuk sillagani. Chahi ama mapung faabagi aroiba numit asida CHEIRAAOBAgi thouram asi paangthokpa matamda ahaanba Cheithaaba aduna anouba cheithaagadaba meesak aduda thoudaa sinnei. Thoudaa sinnabasi mahaakna paiba SARIK YAAOBA CHEISU asi sinnabaduna saknabani.
Asumna nouna thoudaa yaaraba meesak asina SARIK YAAOBA CHEISU adu pandit singgi laaidhou-tinthouga loinana sinnarabada mahaakna cheisu adi paairaga su-suduna sarik makhol leikaaida taahallaga 'ngasi asi chahi ama amuk mapung faare aduga laakkadaba chahigidamak leibaakki amafi ningthougi awaa-anaa taagadaba amadi fattaba thokkdaba pumnamakki mahut sinduna mahaakna CHEI THAARE haaiduna laao-laaoduna chatli haaiduna thouram adubu CHEIRAAOBA haaina koubani. sarik yaaoba CHEIsu paaoraga LAAOBA thpuramni haaiduna CHEIRAAOBA koukhibani. CHEIRAAOBA asi numit amagi maming natte konungda paangthokpa leibaakki amadi ningthougi yaaifanaba sinba laairon-tillon yaaoba thouram amani. (samna haaire)
[9:01 pm, 17/04/2020]
Ibopishak Thangjam:
[9:01 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Masima yamna mayek lana khangjare. Thagatchari, oja. Mathakta thamjakhiba khangdaba wafam ama leiri. Maduma amuk share toujarakke.
[9:05 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Masi oja @ND Hodamba na akonba ibirakpa asi ibiraktringeida thamjakhiba wafamni. Masida eina bhap tadaba ama yaori. Masimatang eibu bhap tahanbiyu.
Aduga social history ga leinaba marigi matangda eina mathakta ijakhiba amaga amuk hanna share toujarakke.
[9:05 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam:
[9:07 pm, 17/04/2020] Mosyel Khaling: cheithaaba haibasi chei-du maphom chaana chaana thaaba (thamba), implying to calculation. Haraoba hak + laoba implying body & mind+ shouting or crying of being sad or happiness. Sandhi+samaj touraga haraoba. Punisillaga cheiraoba hainingba malli oja Thoi-gi cheiraobagi analysis-si. Laallamladi ngaakpiyu.
[9:10 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Ateidi mawong tadre. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[9:11 pm, 17/04/2020] Victor Khuman: Oja Nirendragi cheiraobagi matangda 'KONOK MARUM' haibasi karino amukta sandokpirammu.
[9:13 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Masina cheiraobasi chahi houbagi kumheini haina mayamna lounaba asigi matangdani. Mayamna lounaragadi madu mayamgi culture ama oire. Miyam haibasi mi makhal su, faba, fattaba, ngaoba, feireng tureng touba, ipang pangba, asingba, ... Leibak ama karam toubage hairabadi mising asita toubaduna leibak adugi matou oigadpuribani. Aduna social history bu oiro, cultural history bu oiro, masi miyamna touba, hingba aduna sembani, achumba wakhal, aranba wakhal, hatpa tuppa, mifa mipun, loina pullaga sagadouribani.
Haijaninglibadi chahigi aroiba numit oirambadagi matou karamna chahi houbani haina paaktaknana lounarakkhibano haibasini. Masigi social history gi part asi maru oibra haina khanjei. Leibak miyam amagi wakhal honghanba ngamba karigumba khara thokkhre haibadi sengle.
Masigi matangda oja @nd Hodamba na wafam khara thambigadra? Nattraga eina paba yaba machak leiragasu haibiyi.
[9:14 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Madu eihak vab tade. Th. Ibopishak Singh.
[9:15 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: (Replying to Ibopishak Thangjam) Oja, masigisi yetlomthangba column da makha chatthaba malli. Wa haiba lodriba malli. Makhadu amukta post toubiraka yagadra.
[9:17 pm, 17/04/2020] Mosyel Khaling: Description of the portion appears to be incomplete.
[9:22 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Cheithaba (n) = Meidingngu Kyambana pallingei Shakabda 1407 da Hiyangloina cheithaba houkhi. Adudagi houduna chahi khudinggi Shajibu Cheiraobada mee amamamna cheithanari. ( N. Khelchandra Singhgi dictionary)
[9:24 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Masina faey khalli.
[9:31 pm, 17/04/2020] Mosyel Khaling: Shakabda hairisi Meiteilon-gi chahi paabagi pathaap (cheichat)-ka kadai phaoba, karamna mari leinabage haibasi karamna khang-gadage?
[9:34 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Shakabdada 78 tinsillaga khristabda tagadaba oiramgani.
[9:35 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Ateidi khangde.
[9:35 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: Faalgun-Cheitra (Faairen-Lamdaa) thaa asiwaaida baamon Konok lamboibasingna Isor-gi mingda bikhaa niba laak-i. Makhoina yum amagi meesing thiraga kok lubada haapkadaba koirok-koiba matum machaa amamam pirammi. Madu kok luba matamda chenghida thaadagadabani. Konok na piba matum adubu KONOK MARUM kourammi. (Kari-karina saabano haaibadi khangde).
[9:37 pm, 17/04/2020] Mosyel Khaling: (Repying to ND Hodamba) Interesting!
[9:39 pm, 17/04/2020] Ibopishak Thangjam: Shakabdagi Christian era pabadu chumlabani.
[9:40 pm, 17/04/2020] Victor Khuman: (Replying to ND Hodamba) 馃枓馃枓 thagatchari ojabu
[9:42 pm, 17/04/2020] Victor Khuman: Aduga oja masigi chatnabisi som eikhoi Manipur dadi toubra or adomda khakta toubra
[9:42 pm, 17/04/2020] Victor Khuman: Masigi wafamsima som Manipur dadi eigi oina amukta tajaraktaba aduda thamjabani.
[10:06 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: Ngallingeida leiramba yaai, maramdi matamsida baamon adu bikhaa yaamna fangbani.
eikhoiromdasu KONOK MARUM yellamba baamon adu leikhidangeidagi adum tokkhraba chatnabi amani. Chahi 35 rom mamaanggi waarini.
[10:09 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Eikhoiromda bhamon nupa singda, maruoina nahasingda mamannabasingna konok nattraga bamok konok hainaba yam lei. Bhamon kharadi saoi. Ayambadi saode.
Ngasai ojana haibiba matum taba potki wafamdu ei takgibagum toure eina angang oiringeida.
[10:10 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Eidi Manipurgi kha maikeiromda leiba Kakchingdagini.
[10:14 pm, 17/04/2020] ND Hodamba: Sakaabda si India gi oina loubani, Bangabda amasung Chandrabda haaibasu leieibaduni. Manipur da western education changlaktringei mamaangda Sakaabda asi maru oina lounarammi, Hindu influence leiramba yaai. Meeteidi kum paabasi CHEITHAABA meeda oina paanarambagi mawongni. Ngallingei chingmee singsu paam mafam masing thiraga chahi khangnarammi haainaba leiba adugumbani ojaa.
[10:22 pm, 17/04/2020] Thoithoi O鈥機ottage: Meiteisingna cheithaba adugi matam, cheithaba adugi matam haina paanarambagi wafam ei tarak-i. Masi ikui kuidringei faobada context kharadadi khullakta adum hainarammi. Chatnabi asigi paringda oigani kalli ngasai mathakta share toubirakkhiba cheithabagi photo aduda kayasuba cheithabano haiba iribadu.
Ningthou kanagi haaktakta haiba asina chahigi wa oidre. Chahi pabadi cheithabagi kumda paanaramba malli.